[5] Speaks of
[5] Speaks of the role of a “Purgatory” that he denies is a reality. Like most Protestants who deny this reality; a reality made absolutely Necessary by Devine Justice because of the Divine need in an absolute sense for Souls to be “perfected” prior to gaining the Beatific Vision; on the grounds that the term “Purgatory” does not appear in the bible; gives evidence of all of the following:
1. That as I claimed; here is more evidence of them not understanding God’s Word fully or correctly.
It is a fact, that the term “purgatory” itself does not appear in the Bible. This is not unusual as the terms Protestant, Catholic, dogma, doctrine, codified, Sacraments, papacy, pope and many other terms later added to give direction and meaning to recognized and widely accepted theologies, ALS do appear in the bible. The idea that there “is no mention of Purgatory in the bible,” too is a GREAT ERROR.
Rev. 21: 27 “But nothing unclean shall enter it, nor any one who practices abomination or falsehood, but only those who are written in the Lamb's book of life.”
Mt. 5: 26 truly, I say to you, you will never get out till you have paid the last penny.
Heb. 2: 10 For it was fitting that he, for whom and by whom all things exist, in bringing many sons to glory, should make the pioneer of their salvation perfect through suffering.
1John.3: 2 to 3 “Beloved, we are God's children now; it does not yet appear what we shall be, but we know that when he appears we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is. And every one who thus hopes in him purifies himself as he is pure.”
2. Even more alarming seems to be evidence that they do not have a full and correct understanding of
God’s Nature, nor of the manner humanity is created “in the image of God [Gen. 1:26-27]?
Purgatory, like heaven and hell, are a creations of our “Perfect God”.
It is because God is and HAS TO BE perfect that Mary,
His Mother HAD TO BE PERFECTED
in order to become the Mother of Jesus.
Only those who have been perfected either on earth or after death
[if they died without unconfessed Mortal sins] can and will attain heaven.
God’s nearly incomprehensible desire to be is a Personal Relationship with His Created humanity, led Jesus to devise and make available a path of reconciliation available to those who die in the “State of Grace” but are not yet perfected.
The Mass, the Sacraments of Confession and the Most Holy Eucharist [Jesus Himself ], Indulgences, Good works, and the Sacraments of the “last Rite”
all have a role in accomplishing this task before ones dies.
EACH of these can be justified by either Christ Himself; or the powers and authority passed unto the Apostles and there successors on the Feast of the First Pentecost.
John 20:19-23 “On the evening of that day, the first day of the week, the doors being shut where the disciples were, for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood among them and said to them, "Peace be with you." When he had said this, he showed them his hands and his side. Then the disciples were glad when they saw the Lord. Jesus said to them again,
"Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, even so I send you." And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them,
"Receive the Holy Spirit.
If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained."
All of the following took place in this brief passage.
1. The official formation of today’s Roman Catholic Church
2. The First Pentecost celebration
3. The Institution of the sacrament of Confirmation
4. Jesus passes along His OWN Powers and Authority as God to the Apostles, and through them to there successors.
If you doubt this consider the following:
Matt. 10: 1-8 “And he called to him his twelve disciples and gave them authority over unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal every disease and every infirmity.
The names of the twelve apostles are these:
first, Simon, who is called Peter,
and Andrew his brother;
James the son of Zeb'edee, and
John his brother;
Philip and
Bartholomew;
Thomas and
Matthew the tax collector;
James the son of Alphaeus, and
Thaddaeus;
Simon the Cananaean, and
Judas Iscariot, who betrayed him
. These twelve Jesus sent out, charging them,
"Go nowhere among the Gentiles, and enter no town of the Samaritans, but go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. And preach as you go, saying,
`The kingdom of heaven is at hand.' Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse lepers, cast out demons. You received without paying, give without pay” …
. This is later expanded to the entire world as the Hebrews as a Nation; reject the Messiah.
[Luke 19:41 …. Matt. 28:16-20].
5. The necessary and essential Sacrament of Known Forgiveness of sins
[the ONLY acceptable method as Ordained and commanded by God himself.]
Fourteenth session, canons concerning the most holy sacrament of penance:
· “If anyone says that in the Catholic Church penance is not truly and properly a sacrament instituted by Christ the Lord for reconciling the faithful of God as often as they fall into sin after baptism, LET HIM BE ANATHEMA” (Canons Concerning the Most Holy Sacrament of Penance, Canon 1).
· “If anyone denies that sacramental confession was instituted by divine law or is necessary to salvation; or says that the manner of confessing secretly to a priest alone, which the Catholic Church has always observed from the beginning and still observes, is at variance with the institution and command of Christ and is a human contrivance, LET HIM BE ANATHEMA” (Canons Concerning the Most Holy Sacrament of Penance, Canon 7).
· “If anyone says that the confession of all sins as it is observed in the Church is impossible and is a human tradition to be abolished by pious people; or that each and all of the faithful of Christ or either sex are not bound thereto once a year in accordance with the constitution of the great Lateran Council, and that for this reason the faithful of Christ are to be persuaded not to confess during Lent, LET HIM BE ANATHEMA” (Canons Concerning the Most Holy Sacrament of Penance, Canon 8).
· “If anyone says that God always pardons the whole penalty together with the guilt and that the satisfaction of penitents is nothing else than the faith by which they perceive that Christ has satisfied for them, LET HIM BE ANATHEMA” (Canons Concerning the Most Holy Sacrament of Penance, Canon 8). The PATH to the “Peace” that Jesus desires for each of us.
[6] “have been taught that after death in the family they must give”
Like a great many Protestants, Thomas seems to find great difficulty is discerning the significance of doctrines, dogma’s from what are merely “church practices.”
Thomas’ remarks on this topic seem to indicate an important VOID IN HIS EDUCATION.. This has never been NEVER been a mandatory practice but does have some Tradition behind it.
Church doctrines and dogma are unchangeable; while “church practices”, can and even must change to keep current with the changes in the times. After all today’s Catholic Church is some 2,000 years old. One ought not expect practices of 2,000 years ago to necessarily apply today, exactly as they did when developed.
[7] “more or less and unending offering to priest for masses to shorten their loved one’s time in purgatory.” … Keep in mind that Mr. Heinze is one who holds to the OSAS theology of many Protestant denominations. So He would then naturally find Catholic doctrine of Purgatory and Merits of prayer and sacrifices for the deceased to be completely unnecessary; even foolish.
[8 through 10] Make the point that this changing is both unbiblical and un-Christ-Like
This a issue of practice. It is not mandatory; many parishes do not do it; and I rather doubt that ANY priest would take “food off the table” of a poor widow.
CCC #2122 The minister should ask nothing for the administration of the sacraments beyond the offerings defined by the competent authority, always being careful that the needy are not deprived of the help of the sacraments because of their poverty." The competent authority determines these "offerings" in accordance with the principle that the Christian people ought to contribute to the support of the Church's ministers. "The laborer deserves his food."
Matt. 10: 8-10 “Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse lepers, cast out demons. You received without paying, give without pay. Take no gold, nor silver, nor copper in your belts, no bag for your journey, nor two tunics, nor sandals, nor a staff; for the laborer deserves his food
Because Protestant ministers are often Full time and Married, they expect and get a MUCH larger fee “for services rendered” than do our catholic priest.
” that he denies is a reality. Like most Protestants who deny this reality; a reality made absolutely Necessary by Devine Justice because of the Divine need in an absolute sense for Souls to be “perfected” prior to gaining the Beatific Vision; on the grounds that the term “Purgatory” does not appear in the bible; gives evidence of all of the following:
1. That as I claimed; here is more evidence of them not understanding God’s Word fully or correctly.
It is a fact, that the term “purgatory” itself does not appear in the Bible. This is not unusual as the terms Protestant, Catholic, dogma, doctrine, codified, Sacraments, papacy, pope and many other terms later added to give direction and meaning to recognized and widely accepted theologies, ALS do appear in the bible. The idea that there “is no mention of Purgatory in the bible,” too is a GREAT ERROR.
Rev. 21: 27 “But nothing unclean shall enter it, nor any one who practices abomination or falsehood, but only those who are written in the Lamb's book of life.”
Mt. 5: 26 truly, I say to you, you will never get out till you have paid the last penny.
Heb. 2: 10 For it was fitting that he, for whom and by whom all things exist, in bringing many sons to glory, should make the pioneer of their salvation perfect through suffering.
1John.3: 2 to 3 “Beloved, we are God's children now; it does not yet appear what we shall be, but we know that when he appears we shall be like him, for we shall see him as he is. And every one who thus hopes in him purifies himself as he is pure.”
2. Even more alarming seems to be evidence that they do not have a full and correct understanding of
God’s Nature, nor of the manner humanity is created “in the image of God [Gen. 1:26-27]?
Purgatory, like heaven and hell, are a creations of our “Perfect God”. It is because God is and HAS TO BE perfect that Mary, His Mother HAD TO BE PERFECTED in order to become the Mother of Jesus. Only those who have been perfected either on earth or after death [if they died without unconfessed Mortal sins] can and will attain heaven. God’s nearly incomprehensible desire to be is a Personal Relationship with His Created humanity, led Jesus to devise and make available a path of reconciliation available to those who die in the “State of Grace” but are not yet perfected. The Mass, the Sacraments of Confession and the Most Holy Eucharist [Jesus Himself ], Indulgences, Good works, and the Sacraments of the “last Rite” all have a role in accomplishing this task before ones dies. EACH of these can be justified by either Christ Himself; or the powers and authority passed unto the Apostles and there successors on the Feast of the First Pentecost.
John 20:19-23 “On the evening of that day, the first day of the week, the doors being shut where the disciples were, for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and stood among them and said to them, "Peace be with you." When he had said this, he showed them his hands and his side. Then the disciples were glad when they saw the Lord. Jesus said to them again, "Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, even so I send you." And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them, "Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained."
All of the following took place in this brief passage.
1. The official formation of today’s Roman Catholic Church
2. The First Pentecost celebration
3. The Institution of the sacrament of Confirmation
4. Jesus passes along His OWN Powers and Authority as God to the Apostles, and through them to there successors. If you doubt this consider the following:
Matt. 10: 1-8 “And he called to him his twelve disciples and gave them authority over unclean spirits, to cast them out, and to heal every disease and every infirmity. The names of the twelve apostles are these: first, Simon, who is called Peter, and Andrew his brother; James the son of Zeb'edee, and John his brother; Philip and Bartholomew; Thomas and Matthew the tax collector; James the son of Alphaeus, and Thaddaeus; Simon the Cananaean, and Judas Iscariot, who betrayed him. These twelve Jesus sent out, charging them, "Go nowhere among the Gentiles, and enter no town of the Samaritans, but go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel. And preach as you go, saying, `The kingdom of heaven is at hand.' Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse lepers, cast out demons. You received without paying, give without pay” …. This is later expanded to the entire world as the Hebrews as a Nation; reject the Messiah. [Luke 19:41 …. Matt. 28:16-20].
5. The necessary and essential Sacrament of Known Forgiveness of sins [the ONLY acceptable method as Ordained and commanded by God himself.] The PATH to the “Peace” that Jesus desires for each of us.
[6] “have been taught that after death in the family they must give”
Like a great many Protestants, Thomas seems to find great difficulty is discerning the significance of doctrines, dogma’s from what are merely “church practices.” Thomas’ remarks on this topic seem to indicate an important VOID IN HIS EDUCATION.. This has never been NEVER been a mandatory practice but does have some Tradition behind it.
Church doctrines and dogma are unchangeable; while “church practices”, can and even must change to keep current with the changes in the times. After all today’s Catholic Church is some 2,000 years old. One ought not expect practices of 2,000 years ago to necessarily apply today, exactly as they did when developed.
[7] “more or less and unending offering to priest for masses to shorten their loved one’s time in purgatory.” … Keep in mind that Mr. Heinze is one who holds to the OSAS theology of many Protestant denominations. So He would then naturally find Catholic doctrine of Purgatory and Merits of prayer and sacrifices for the deceased to be completely unnecessary; even foolish.
[8 through 10] Make the point that this changing is both unbiblical and un-Christ-Like
This a issue of practice. It is not mandatory; many parishes do not do it; and I rather doubt that ANY priest would take “food off the table” of a poor widow.
CCC #2122 The minister should ask nothing for the administration of the sacraments beyond the offerings defined by the competent authority, always being careful that the needy are not deprived of the help of the sacraments because of their poverty." The competent authority determines these "offerings" in accordance with the principle that the Christian people ought to contribute to the support of the Church's ministers. "The laborer deserves his food."
Matt. 10: 8-10 “Heal the sick, raise the dead, cleanse lepers, cast out demons. You received without paying, give without pay. Take no gold, nor silver, nor copper in your belts, no bag for your journey, nor two tunics, nor sandals, nor a staff; for the laborer deserves his food
Because Protestant ministers are often Full time and Married, they expect and get a MUCH larger fee “for services rendered” than do our catholic priest.
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