Saturday, September 22, 2012

- I Said Ha Ha--- patrick j miron deception made easy- you have to be catholic to understand the bible

ok here we go


You have to be catholic to understand the bible It is the Catholic Church that “birthed the Bible.”


Protestant Theology & Catholic Doctrines
Exposed to cover & discover the Naked Truth“... Catholic responses to the Booklet: “Answers to my Catholic Friends” by Thomas F. Heinze

A Catholic reply to Protestant “[mis]- Understandings” Part 1
“I Am Catholic” by Pat Miron

A message to our non-Catholic Friends
Psalm 95:8 If today You Hear His Voice; Harden Not Your Hearts”

Deuteronomy 18: 15 - 20
"The LORD your God will raise up for you a prophet like me from among you, from your brethren -- him you shall heed -- just as you desired of the LORD your God at Horeb on the day of the assembly, when you said, `Let me not hear again the voice of the LORD my God, or see this great fire any more, lest I die.' And the LORD said to me, `They have rightly said all that they have spoken. I will raise up for them a prophet like you from among their brethren; and I will put my words in his mouth, and he shall speak to them all that I command him. And whoever will not give heed to my words which he shall speak in my name, I myself will require it of him. But the prophet [person] who presumes to speak a word in my name which I have not commanded him to speak, or who speaks in the name of other gods, that same prophet shall die…

 Yahweh; the God of the OT is the same God as Jesus in the NT. What was good for souls then is even more important in the Secular; Devil driven times of today. Jesus promised NOT to abandon us; [John 14:19]  and kept His Word by Appointing Peter and the Catholic Church, which He personally continues to guide, guard, protect and lead. [John17:15-19]

From the beginning of recorded history God has consistently chosen mortal men to lead “his Chosen people.”  Even if [and when] they sinned; God was with the

m.  They were commanded by God to speak on His behalf, guided and inspired by God, and to be heard as “God Himself is to be heard. …Noah, Abraham, Isaac, David, Solomon, the Prophets, John the Baptist; then Jesus Christ Himself; God Incarnate, who following His Own Tradition personally choose Peter to complete the New Covenant, and entrusted to Peter His own one-set of Faith beliefs, and the Only Church ever founded directly by God Himself. So the ONE question each man, women and child of age must ask themselves is: Do I listen and Obey God or someone else?

Matt. 16; 18:19 ..”And I [JESUS] tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the powers of death shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven."

Psalms 127:1 "Unless the Lord builds the house, those who build it labor in vain. Unless the Lord watches over the city, the watchman stays awake in vain."

Isaiah 55:8 -9 “For my thoughts are not your thoughts, nor are your ways my ways, says the LORD. As high as the heavens are above the earth, so high are my ways above your ways and my thoughts above your thoughts.”

Here we are in the middle of January, 2012, and I’m just now opening one of my Christmas presents.
Although it is written by  a Protestant Theologian, 

I must confess that I am delighted to be able to report that the booklet is well thought out and presented with true Christian charity.


  Thomas makes his case plain, and to the unknowing, or unsuspecting; convincingly 


. Mr. Heinze has a Masters Degree in Theology from the DALLAS THEOLOGICAL SEMINARY.

What became immediately apparent is the sincerity of the positions held by Mr. Heinze.,


 and his evident desire to be factual and true.


 Which only affirms my own opinion that God Himself has a role in these  well-intended Protestant positions which ,


 nevertheless, reflect  serious-errant misunderstandings of Catholic Doctrines and Dogma, along with an in ability to separate “church-practices,”


 which can change, from doctrine and dogma which cannot be changed



. God Himself limits their ability to understand the bible by imposing upon them the plague of Ignorance.  




This will be proven and become very evident as we proceed though the booklet Thomas authored, and  which, God willing, we shall prove and provide biblical evidence of that explains and supports the Catholic Positions.

I have for sometime now  been Blessed by God, and able to recognize God’s hand in the lack of RIGHT understanding of what the bible really says as a rather common Protestant trait.




 In fact; it seems to be one thing many of the denominations have in common.

 This ought not be a surprise to any of us who are “bible-savvy,”  


 as clear warning is given by God through the bible itself., in a variety of ways.

Let’s begin with an understanding that the Bibles is a Catholic Book, 

 in a very specific and precise manner.


 [This too is often debated as if there were actually grounds to despite it].

It is the Catholic Church that “birthed the Bible.” 



  It is historically provable that  it was the Catholic Church that selected and collected the Old Testament books to be included as part of the bible; and the entire New Testament is authored by men known today, to have been early Fathers of today’s Catholic Church. 


It was the Catholic Church that Codified and selected officially all of the books to be included in the bible.. 


Further as the bible was completely written by the end of the First Century; the only “church” that existed anywhere in the known world, is historically proven to be, today’s Catholic Church


Thus, all references in the bible to “church” or “churches” are a direct reference to today’s Catholic Church. 



And the final point, is that  it is Jesus Himself who first introduced the term “church” in Matthew 16:15-19, when He appointed Peter as the first leader of this one- church. 

Acts.20: 28 Take heed to yourselves and to all the flock, in which the Holy Spirit has made you overseers, to care for the church of God  [SINGULAR] which he obtained with the blood of his own Son.”

Eph.3:  9 to 12  “And to make all men see what is the plan of the mystery hidden for ages in God who created all things; that through the church [SINGULAR: meaning  THE CATHOLIC Church] the  manifold wisdom of God might now be made known to the principalities and powers in the heavenly places. This was according to the eternal purpose which he has realized in Christ Jesus our Lord, in whom we have boldness and confidence of access through our faith in him”



Matt.13:9-12 “He who has ears, let him hear." Then the disciples came and said to him,

 "Why do you speak to them in parables?" And he answered them, 


"To you it has been given to know the secrets of the kingdom of heaven, 



 but to them it has not been given.” 



 For to him who has will more be given, and he will have abundance;



 but from him who has not, even what he has will be taken away. “



Even all of this is not the complete set of warnings presented in the Bible; 


but these ought to verify my position, that it is nearly impossible for anyone not to be warned about the high probability of incorrect understanding of what God really taught and what he means and commands,


 without the chosen-guides that he himself has commanded.


 Those guides being exclusively of the Catholic Church.

John 15:16 “You did not choose me, but I chose you and appointed you that you should go and bear fruit and that your fruit should abide; so that whatever you ask the Father in my name, he may give it to you.” …Matt. 16: 18-19 “And I [JESUS] tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the powers of death shall not prevail against it. I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven, and whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven."

Matt. 28:16-20 “Now the eleven disciples went to Galilee, to the mountain to which Jesus had directed them. And when they saw him they worshiped him; but some doubted. [THOMAS] And Jesus came and said to them, "All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, teaching them to observe all that I have commanded you; and lo, I am with you always, to the close of the age."

Having identified the underlying cause of the problem as an apparent inability to consistently understand correctly and fully, the Written Words of God,




I am now obligated to explain just why it happens. The underlying cause is a God imposed penalty for NOT doing what He say’s and NOT fully following ALL of His  teachings, as will be clearly demonstrated. Exactly how God accomplishes this remains a mystery. The fact that He is behind it, is not.

I suspect it is accomplished by withholding Devine guidance, as is His Right. There is evidence of an unintentional selective application of passages elected and chosen to solidify the positions expressed by Brother Heinze, that I have seen quite often by his contemporaries. 


At first I thought it might be intentional;

 but have come to understand that it is God who limits their understanding; making it still possible,

 but far more difficult for them to uncover and discover  God’s Fullness of Truth. 




It’s a battle between Pride and Humility; Good and Evil; Partial truths and the Fullness of Gods Own Truth.


Mt. 11: 25-26  “At that time Jesus declared, "I thank thee, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hidden these things from the wise and understanding and revealed them to babes; yea, Father, for such was thy gracious will. All things have been delivered to me by my Father; and no one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and any one to whom the Son chooses to reveal him.”

This “hidden messages” is God’s way of formulating a particular cross for non-Catholics to carry. 



Because God can ONLY be a “Good and Fair” God [anything less would deny His Divinity], this burden is imposed to make clear His displeasure with what is going on, and





 the fact that never once in the entire Bible, did or has God permitted a belief in  more than one God [Triune], or more than Only One set of Faith-beliefs, or ever guide, guard and protect more than one “church” [or one chosen people.] This FACT alone ought to put everyone on the “same page.”

That friends sets us up for the discussion of the positions expressed so kindly by Mr. Thomas Heinze.


 I will first share his views and evidences, and then provide our Catholic response to them. 


The first topic selected by Mr. Heinze, is the Catholic Mass.

Thirteenth session, canons on the most holy sacrament of the Eucharist:
·          “If anyone denies that in the sacrament of the most Holy Eucharist are contained truly, really and substantially the body and blood together with the soul and divinity of our Lord Jesus Christ, and consequently the whole Christ, but says that He is in it only as in a sign, or figure or force, LET HIM BE ANATHEMA” (Canons on the Most Holy Sacrament of the Eucharist, Canon 1).
·          “If anyone says that Christ received in the Eucharist is received spiritually only and not also sacramentally and really, LET HIM BE ANATHEMA” (Canons on the Most Holy Sacrament of the Eucharist, Canon 8).




That friends sets us up for the discussion of the positions expressed so kindly by Mr. Thomas Heinze. I will first share his views and evidences, and then provide our Catholic response to them. The first topic selected by Mr. Heinze, is the Catholic Mass.
“Answers to my Catholic Friends” by Thomas F. Heinze




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